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Joel Guzman (OF/SS?/3b?), TB

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Joel Guzman (OF/SS?/3b?), TB - Trade (NL to AL)
July 31, 2006

News: Joel Guzman was traded to the Devil Rays in Monday's Julio Lugo deal.

Views: Guzman joins a crowded outfield, but he'll probably be moving back to the infield in the near future. Guzman was moved to the outfield when the Dodgers signed Rafael Furcal in the offseason, but came up as a shortstop. With B.J. Upton and Reid Brignac in the system, it's possible that Guzman will be moved elsewhere in the infield, as he'd have an uphill battle to crack the Rays' crowded outfield in the next few years.


Posted by James Meyerriecks: Jul 31 at 7:28 PM

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[1] by dpaullin on 07/31/2006 12:02 pmreply
I'd like to see Guzman playing short for the Devil Rays.

[2] by y2j_rules2001 on 07/31/2006 10:11 pmreply
The talk around the Devil Rays about Guzman is a move to 1st base to replace the relatively unproductive Travis Lee. BJ Upton and Ben Zorbist have been called up and should be in the starting line up tonight for the Rays at 3rd and short respectively. JP Howell makes his Rays debut against Justin Verlander as well.
[3] by kschellenger on 08/01/2006 12:47 amreply
y2j_rules2001 wrote:
The talk around the Devil Rays about Guzman is a move to 1st base to replace the relatively unproductive Travis Lee. BJ Upton and Ben Zorbist have been called up and should be in the starting line up tonight for the Rays at 3rd and short respectively. JP Howell makes his Rays debut against Justin Verlander as well.


Interesting...guess I'll be watching that game.
[4] by phiflyers2003 on 08/01/2006 01:31 amreply
so is guzman on the team or was he sent to triple-a I didnt see him in their depth chart last nite
[5] by y2j_rules2001 on 08/01/2006 01:38 amreply
Guzman will start at AAA-Durham and probably by September he will be called up.
[6] by DOH!!! on 08/01/2006 01:41 amreply
y2j_rules2001 wrote:
The talk around the Devil Rays about Guzman is a move to 1st base to replace the relatively unproductive Travis Lee. BJ Upton and Ben Zorbist have been called up and should be in the starting line up tonight for the Rays at 3rd and short respectively. JP Howell makes his Rays debut against Justin Verlander as well.


I thought Upton was brought up to play SS and yet they have another prospect playing SS... I thought the only reason they moved Upton to 3B was because Huff got traded to Houston. What? I'm really confused.

[7] by y2j_rules2001 on 08/01/2006 01:52 amreply
BJ Upton was moved to 3rd base when Huff was traded to Houston for Ben Zorbist and Mitch Talbot. Ty Wigginton broke his hand earlier this week so now BJ Upton will start at 3rd base until Ty Wigginton gets back. Ben Zorbist will take over at Short with the trade of Julio Lugo.
[8] by DOH!!! on 08/01/2006 01:54 amreply
y2j_rules2001 wrote:
BJ Upton was moved to 3rd base when Huff was traded to Houston for Ben Zorbist and Mitch Talbot. Ty Wigginton broke his hand earlier this week so now BJ Upton will start at 3rd base until Ty Wigginton gets back. Ben Zorbist will take over at Short with the trade of Julio Lugo.


Okay. Got that. Thanks.

[9] by dpaullin on 08/01/2006 02:42 amreply
Forget everything you've heard about Upton being a shortstop. In all actuality, he's a third baseman.

[10] by y2j_rules2001 on 08/01/2006 02:55 amreply
dpaullin wrote:
Forget everything you've heard about Upton being a shortstop. In all actuality, he's a third baseman.



Exactly. The Rays are planning on Upton being the 3rd baseman of the future and Zorbist the SS of the future. They're set in the outfield with Baldelli, Crawford, and Young/Dukes. Navarro shows promise behind the plate. What needs to happen now is ship guys like Wiggy and Travis Lee for pitching help. Casey Fossum shows promise but he's inconsistent. His last 2 starts are a perfect example of this. Against the Angels on July 26th Fossum pitched an inning and a third and gave up in the neighborhood of 7 runs. His start last night against the Tigers was a gem as he struck out 5 in a 7-3 Rays victory. If the Rays can get solid pitching from Fossum that could set up to be a nice 1-2 punch in Kaz and Fossum. JP Howell makes his debut tonight, maybe they can find lightning in a bottle.

I'm just rambling now. Typical of a hopeful Rays fan
[11] by dpaullin on 08/01/2006 02:59 amreply
What kind of pitcher would Elijah Dukes or Jonny Gomes be worth?

[12] by guru4u on 08/01/2006 03:03 amreply
y2j_rules2001 wrote:
dpaullin wrote:
Forget everything you've heard about Upton being a shortstop. In all actuality, he's a third baseman.



Exactly. The Rays are planning on Upton being the 3rd baseman of the future and Zorbist the SS of the future. They're set in the outfield with Baldelli, Crawford, and Young/Dukes. Navarro shows promise behind the plate. What needs to happen now is ship guys like Wiggy and Travis Lee for pitching help. Casey Fossum shows promise but he's inconsistent. His last 2 starts are a perfect example of this. Against the Angels on July 26th Fossum pitched an inning and a third and gave up in the neighborhood of 7 runs. His start last night against the Tigers was a gem as he struck out 5 in a 7-3 Rays victory. If the Rays can get solid pitching from Fossum that could set up to be a nice 1-2 punch in Kaz and Fossum. JP Howell makes his debut tonight, maybe they can find lightning in a bottle.

I'm just rambling now. Typical of a hopeful Rays fan


When you think about what the D Rays will look like in 3 years, they could have an absolutely amazing lineup:

C Navarro
1B Guzman
2B Cantu
3B Longoria
SS Brignac
LF Dukes
CF Upton
RF Young
DH Crawford

Yeah, I left Baldelli out. This team has so much offensive talent it's a bit rediculous. Really, the only guy on that list that won't be ready at some point next year is Brignac. The way Longoria is going, he might pull a Zimmerman and start contributing in September. At the very least, he's a midseason callup next year.

This just hilights how the Rays really, really need pitching help. My guess is they'll try to move Gomes in the offseason for some pitching, then either Baldelli or Crawford in a couple years for more pitching. We're looking at the best offense in the majors in 2008 right there.

And all this comes from a non-Rays fan (who does happen to own Young, Dukes, Longoria, Brignac and Gomes on his fantasy keeper team)....
[13] by guru4u on 08/01/2006 03:06 amreply
dpaullin wrote:
What kind of pitcher would Elijah Dukes or Jonny Gomes be worth?



If Gomes could get healthy again, I would imagine he'd bring quite a bit of pitching. I still think the Twins would be a great trade partner, given the lack of OF depth in their system. A Kevin Slowey and Scott Baker for Jonny Gomes and Wes Bankston deal would make perfect sense for them.
[14] by kschellenger on 08/01/2006 03:17 amreply
guru4u wrote:
dpaullin wrote:
What kind of pitcher would Elijah Dukes or Jonny Gomes be worth?



If Gomes could get healthy again, I would imagine he'd bring quite a bit of pitching. I still think the Twins would be a great trade partner, given the lack of OF depth in their system. A Kevin Slowey and Scott Baker for Jonny Gomes and Wes Bankston deal would make perfect sense for them.


Doubtful MIN would do that though. They maxed at Slowey and Perkins for Carlos Lee and they have been notoriously outspoken against trading their pitching prospects.
[15] by guru4u on 08/01/2006 03:26 amreply
kschellenger wrote:
guru4u wrote:
dpaullin wrote:
What kind of pitcher would Elijah Dukes or Jonny Gomes be worth?



If Gomes could get healthy again, I would imagine he'd bring quite a bit of pitching. I still think the Twins would be a great trade partner, given the lack of OF depth in their system. A Kevin Slowey and Scott Baker for Jonny Gomes and Wes Bankston deal would make perfect sense for them.


Doubtful MIN would do that though. They maxed at Slowey and Perkins for Carlos Lee and they have been notoriously outspoken against trading their pitching prospects.


Not saying Minny would do that... only that they SHOULD do it. A trade like that would benefit both teams. Minny would still keep Garza, Perkins, Swarzak and Durbin and get a very good but still cheap OF in return.

Florida would also make a good trade partner, though I would guess Sanchez and Johnson would be labelled "unavailable".
[16] by kschellenger on 08/01/2006 03:27 amreply
guru4u wrote:
kschellenger wrote:
guru4u wrote:
dpaullin wrote:
What kind of pitcher would Elijah Dukes or Jonny Gomes be worth?



If Gomes could get healthy again, I would imagine he'd bring quite a bit of pitching. I still think the Twins would be a great trade partner, given the lack of OF depth in their system. A Kevin Slowey and Scott Baker for Jonny Gomes and Wes Bankston deal would make perfect sense for them.


Doubtful MIN would do that though. They maxed at Slowey and Perkins for Carlos Lee and they have been notoriously outspoken against trading their pitching prospects.


Not saying Minny would do that... only that they SHOULD do it. A trade like that would benefit both teams. Minny would still keep Garza, Perkins, Swarzak and Durbin and get a very good but still cheap OF in return.

Florida would also make a good trade partner, though I would guess Sanchez and Johnson would be labelled "unavailable".


gotcha
[17] by ThaMagicStick on 08/01/2006 01:57 pmreply
Heres a question .. after Uptons two hit game tonight.. will he ever be a good player to pick up in leagues .. should I pick him up .. I kinda need a third basemen.. I justed droped Huff and signed Durham and now Sanchez is playing third
[18] by dpaullin on 08/02/2006 01:42 amreply
I'd say Upton's worth a pickup in a 12 team mixed league if you're in need of left side of the infield help.

[19] by kschellenger on 08/02/2006 02:30 amreply
dpaullin wrote:
I'd say Upton's worth a pickup in a 12 team mixed league if you're in need of left side of the infield help.



I'd tend to agree. Especially if you can take a hit in AVG as he's likely to struggle there as most rookies do.
[20] by dpaullin on 08/02/2006 04:41 amreply
He'll probably get you some bags, however.



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