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Jason Isringhausen (RP), STL

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by James Meyerriecks - Wed Aug 9
  • News: Izzy's old friend the walk was back on Wednesday night, but Rich Aurilia didn't stay on first for long after accepting the free pass. Isringhausen walked his first batter in his past six appearances and (not surprisingly) blew his first save since July 9 as David Ross blasted a two run walkoff shot in Wednesday's 8-7 loss to the Cincinnati Reds.

    Views: Though he's been much better over the past month and a half, Izzy's obsession with walking batters is the worst thing you can possibly see out of your closer. I'd much rather have my closer giving up a solo blast than a walk, because that at least means he's going after hitters and trying to overpower them. Isringhausen has had a horrible history with his walk rate over the past few years, and part of it (as shown earlier this year) has seemed to be due to the fact that he's afraid to challenge hitters when he's behind in the count. Hopefully he doesn't let this outing get to him and gets back on track, but we're keeping an eye on him.



    Posted by James Meyerriecks: Aug 9, 06 at 9:06 PM


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    1
    kschellenger on 08/09/2006 10:27 pm
    Just a question, not a dig by any means:
    Do Cards fans just get sick of this guy? He's constantly talked up and seems to always put up decent save numbers (silly stat) but consistently has a higher ERA and BS rate than you'd like out of a guy with his hype/contract.
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    Hrod382 on 08/09/2006 11:13 pm
    DAVID ROSS.... MY BOY!!!!!!!


    Izzy is like the Reds MVP thus far.... I think going into today his ERA was 81 against us.... WOOOHOOOO.
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    DOH!!! on 08/10/2006 07:58 am
    Who's up in the Cardinals closer role when Izzy leaves or whatever happens to him?

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    dpaullin on 08/10/2006 09:41 am
    Isringhausen consistently puts up 35-40 saves, so more than just decent. He'll convert his save chances in Bob Wickman-esque fashion.

    As for future closer, Adam Wainwright has looked good in relief, and there's always Braden Looper.

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    kschellenger on 08/10/2006 02:50 pm
    dpaullin wrote:
    Isringhausen consistently puts up 35-40 saves, so more than just decent. He'll convert his save chances in Bob Wickman-esque fashion.



    Wrong. Here are his save totals: 0, 0, 0, 9, 33, 34, 32, 22, 47, 39. He's got about 1 BS for every 5.5 saves he converts.
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    DOH!!! on 08/10/2006 03:28 pm
    dpaullin wrote:
    Isringhausen consistently puts up 35-40 saves, so more than just decent. He'll convert his save chances in Bob Wickman-esque fashion.

    As for future closer, Adam Wainwright has looked good in relief, and there's always Braden Looper.



    The STL fans here say Wainwright is starting next year.

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    dpaullin on 08/10/2006 03:51 pm
    kschellenger wrote:
    dpaullin wrote:
    Isringhausen consistently puts up 35-40 saves, so more than just decent. He'll convert his save chances in Bob Wickman-esque fashion.



    Wrong. Here are his save totals: 0, 0, 0, 9, 33, 34, 32, 22, 47, 39. He's got about 1 BS for every 5.5 saves he converts.


    For the past five seasons, I was pretty close without even looking at his stats. 33, 34, 32 are pretty close to 35.

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    kschellenger on 08/10/2006 04:00 pm
    dpaullin wrote:
    kschellenger wrote:
    dpaullin wrote:
    Isringhausen consistently puts up 35-40 saves, so more than just decent. He'll convert his save chances in Bob Wickman-esque fashion.



    Wrong. Here are his save totals: 0, 0, 0, 9, 33, 34, 32, 22, 47, 39. He's got about 1 BS for every 5.5 saves he converts.


    For the past five seasons, I was pretty close without even looking at his stats. 33, 34, 32 are pretty close to 35.



    Pretty close yes, but it doesn't constitute "consistently" 35-40 saves. If he didn't blow so many it would be.
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    travman on 08/10/2006 06:39 pm
    he sucks
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    stlsportsfan on 08/10/2006 09:40 pm
    kschellenger wrote:
    Just a question, not a dig by any means:
    Do Cards fans just get sick of this guy? He's constantly talked up and seems to always put up decent save numbers (silly stat) but consistently has a higher ERA and BS rate than you'd like out of a guy with his hype/contract.


    In a word, yes. I really don't get why they extended his contract last year. He's making a ton of money, and isn't all that good for what he's paid. I'd rather have seen the team look to develop Mark McCormick or Chris Lambert for the closer's role.

    Izzy's not going anywhere though...he's not good enough that other teams covet him (especially with that price tag), but he's good enough that you can run him out there.
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    Jim Meyerriecks on 08/11/2006 02:13 am
    Doh wrote:
    The STL fans here say Wainwright is starting next year.




    With four free agent starters on the current team (Mulder, Marquis, Suppan, Weaver), the expectation is that the Cardinals sign one of them (most likely Suppan), move Wainwright into a rotation spot, and (obviously) stick with Anthony Reyes for a spot. By doing this (and keeping Carp), they'd really only need to look for one arm on the open market.
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    DOH!!! on 08/11/2006 09:33 am
    Jim Meyerriecks wrote:
    Doh wrote:
    The STL fans here say Wainwright is starting next year.




    With four free agent starters on the current team (Mulder, Marquis, Suppan, Weaver), the expectation is that the Cardinals sign one of them (most likely Suppan), move Wainwright into a rotation spot, and (obviously) stick with Anthony Reyes for a spot. By doing this (and keeping Carp), they'd really only need to look for one arm on the open market.


    So, I'm guessing Izzy is still gonna close? If he fails, who's second in line? Looper since Wainwright is starting.

    I want Mulder to sign with Boston. That would be awesome, provided he can return healthy. 2 lefties. That's sick stuff.

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    dpaullin on 08/11/2006 11:12 am
    DOH!!! wrote:
    I want Mulder to sign with Boston. That would be awesome, provided he can return healthy. 2 lefties. That's sick stuff.



    Because we all know having two left handers in your rotation is the key to success...

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    DOH!!! on 08/11/2006 12:38 pm
    dpaullin wrote:
    DOH!!! wrote:
    I want Mulder to sign with Boston. That would be awesome, provided he can return healthy. 2 lefties. That's sick stuff.



    Because we all know having two left handers in your rotation is the key to success...



    It sure is.

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    stlsportsfan on 08/13/2006 02:52 pm
    Jim Meyerriecks wrote:
    Doh wrote:
    The STL fans here say Wainwright is starting next year.




    With four free agent starters on the current team (Mulder, Marquis, Suppan, Weaver), the expectation is that the Cardinals sign one of them (most likely Suppan), move Wainwright into a rotation spot, and (obviously) stick with Anthony Reyes for a spot. By doing this (and keeping Carp), they'd really only need to look for one arm on the open market.


    And I'm hoping Jim is praying just as hard as I am that it's Jason Schmidt.
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    dpaullin on 08/13/2006 04:41 pm
    Schmidt's probably going to Seattle if they want him.

    17
    DOH!!! on 08/13/2006 05:17 pm
    We could have gotten Schmidt (based on the rumors before the nonwaiver trade deadline this year)...

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    stlsportsfan on 08/13/2006 05:26 pm
    dpaullin wrote:
    Schmidt's probably going to Seattle if they want him.



    I agree, but a guy can wish.
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    hessshaun on 08/13/2006 06:20 pm
    stlsportsfan wrote:
    dpaullin wrote:
    Schmidt's probably going to Seattle if they want him.



    I agree, but a guy can wish.


    Bavasi has said he would like him. Beltre contract? I would say you have a very good chance of that wish coming true. Especially considering their improvement this year. They really have a nice young core of players out there, great fans, and a pitchers park. Schmidt would kill their payroll come deadline if they are in next year given their budget.
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    dpaullin on 08/13/2006 07:40 pm
    Probably a 3 yr/12 per contract for Schmidt?

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    stlsportsfan on 08/13/2006 08:19 pm
    dpaullin wrote:
    Probably a 3 yr/12 per contract for Schmidt?



    I would say at least 13 per and probably more than that for only a 3 year deal.
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    hessshaun on 08/13/2006 10:45 pm
    I was thinking he would get more money, but at least 13 sounds right.
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    Jef..err..Jered Weaver on 08/14/2006 12:09 am
    DOH!!! wrote:
    dpaullin wrote:
    DOH!!! wrote:
    I want Mulder to sign with Boston. That would be awesome, provided he can return healthy. 2 lefties. That's sick stuff.



    Because we all know having two left handers in your rotation is the key to success...



    It sure is.



    Yeah, if your team happens to be called the Minnesota Twins lol
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    guru4u on 08/14/2006 07:22 am
    stlsportsfan wrote:
    dpaullin wrote:
    Probably a 3 yr/12 per contract for Schmidt?



    I would say at least 13 per and probably more than that for only a 3 year deal.


    I'm going to guess he gets 4 yrs/50MM. If it's a 3 yr deal, he'll probably get 40 - 42MM.
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    dpaullin on 08/14/2006 09:54 am
    Schmidt will be 34 next season, so a four-year deal will carry him through his 37th birthday. I know Seattle gave Beltre over $60 million, but will they spend big bucks on someone like Schmidt?

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    hessshaun on 08/14/2006 09:55 am
    dpaullin wrote:
    Schmidt will be 34 next season, so a four-year deal will carry him through his 37th birthday. I know Seattle gave Beltre over $60 million, but will they spend big bucks on someone like Schmidt?



    I agree that's steep. Who knows, it's the same GM that signed Beltre and pitching is premium, so if they want him, they will have to. I know he is very high on Bavasi's radar.
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    guru4u on 08/14/2006 10:33 am
    dpaullin wrote:
    Schmidt will be 34 next season, so a four-year deal will carry him through his 37th birthday. I know Seattle gave Beltre over $60 million, but will they spend big bucks on someone like Schmidt?



    I never would have guessed an inconsistent guy like Burnett would get the $$ he got either. Pitching is very, very overpriced in the current market. It would not surprise me one bit to see Schmidt get a hefty deal, despite his age. After all, how many true #1 starters will be available in the market?

    On a side note, I truly think the Cardinals are the dark horses in the Schmidt race. Management there knows the starting rotation is the reason why the team has struggled this year, and I'm sure they had set aside some $$ to sign Mulder before he got hurt. If they don't sign Mulder, they probably make a big push for Schmidt.
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    dpaullin on 08/14/2006 05:32 pm
    guru4u wrote:
    dpaullin wrote:
    Schmidt will be 34 next season, so a four-year deal will carry him through his 37th birthday. I know Seattle gave Beltre over $60 million, but will they spend big bucks on someone like Schmidt?



    I never would have guessed an inconsistent guy like Burnett would get the $$ he got either. Pitching is very, very overpriced in the current market. It would not surprise me one bit to see Schmidt get a hefty deal, despite his age. After all, how many true #1 starters will be available in the market?


    Burnett is also a few years younger than Schmidt, and teams probably think he's got a brighter future than Schmidt has. Also, Burnett probably has better stuff than Schmidt.

    We saw Pedro Martinez available a couple of years ago, and the only serious bidders for his services were the New York teams.

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    NYsportsMAN on 08/14/2006 09:03 pm
    Schmidt has experience though, in the playoffs, and is a proven vet. I'd be surprised if he gets anything less than a $35 mil deal.
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    dpaullin on 08/15/2006 03:39 pm
    He's pitched in one postseason, hasn't he? 2003 with the Giants?

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    NYsportsMAN on 08/15/2006 08:16 pm
    Izzy has been in the playoffs in 2000, 2001, 02, 04, and 05. 4-5 in 23 games, ERA 2.36
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    dpaullin on 08/16/2006 06:43 am
    NYsportsMAN wrote:
    Izzy has been in the playoffs in 2000, 2001, 02, 04, and 05. 4-5 in 23 games, ERA 2.36


    I meant Schmidt.

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    howard johnson on 08/23/2006 05:15 am
    You can chart his decline from the moment he joined my fantasy team. I am to blame.
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