Independent Defensive Players
August 24, 2005
Prior to the weekly rankings, here is the last in a series of pre-season rankings for the 2005 season. The schedule for the remaining positions would be:
Quarterbacks -- Thursday, Aug. 18
Running Backs -- Friday, Aug. 19
Wide Receivers -- Saturday, Aug. 20
Tight Ends -- Monday, Aug. 22
Kickers and Defenses -- Tuesday, Aug. 23
Individual Defensive Players -- Wednesday, Aug. 24
Defensive Backs
1 Rodney Harrison, NE
2 Troy Polamalu, PIT
3 Edward Reed, BAL
4 Roy Williams, DAL
5 Ronde Barber, TB
6 Madieu Williams, CIN
7 Adrian Wilson, ARI
8 Dunta Robinson, HOU
9 Adam Archuleta, STL
10 Antoine Winfield, MIN
11 Michael Boulware, SEA
12 Erik Coleman, NYJ
13 Gibril Wilson, NYG
14 Michael Lewis, PHI
15 Terrance Kiel, SD
16 Darren Sharper, MIN
17 Bryan Scott, ATL
18 Tony Parrish, SF
19 Terrence McGee, BUF
20 Mike Brown, CHI
21 Sean Taylor, WAS
22 Thomas Davis, CAR
23 Bob Sanders, IND
24 Sammy Knight, KC
25 Ken Hamlin, SEA
26 Brian Dawkins, PHI
27 Nate Clements, BUF
28 Donovin Darius, JAX
29 Lawyer Milloy, BUF
30 Dwight Smith, NO
31 Marcus Trufant, SEA
32 Michael Green, CHI
33 Sean Jones, CLE
34 Robert Griffith, ARI
35 Will Demps, BAL
36 Kenoy Kennedy, DET
37 Charles Tillman, CHI
38 Chris Gamble, CAR
39 Tebucky Jones, MIA
40 Ken Lucas, CAR
41 Jay Bellamy, NO
42 Tank Williams, TEN
43 Marlin Jackson, IND
44 Greg Wesley, KC
45 Antrel Rolle, ARI
46 Matt Bowen, WAS
47 Nick Ferguson, DEN
48 Rashean Mathis, JAX
49 Shaun Williams, NYG
50 Dre' Bly, DET
51 Mike Minter, CAR
52 Tory James, CIN
53 Terence Newman, DAL
54 Sheldon Brown, PHI
55 Michael Doss, IND
56 Eugene Wilson, NE
57 Jerametrius Butler, STL
58 Corey Chavous, MIN
59 Champ Bailey, DEN
60 Stuart Schweigert, OAK
61 Glenn Earl, HOU
62 Shawn Springs, WAS
63 Ty Law, NYJ
64 Marcus Coleman, HOU
65 Derrick Gibson, OAK
66 Gary Baxter, CLE
67 Lamont Thompson, TEN
68 Lito Sheppard, PHI
69 Pacman Jones, TEN
70 DeAngelo Hall, ATL
Linebackers
1 Keith Bulluck, TEN
2 Ray Lewis, BAL
3 Donnie Edwards, SD
4 Brian Urlacher, CHI
5 Jonathan Vilma, NYJ
6 Mike Peterson, JAX
7 Zach Thomas, MIA
8 Derrick Brooks, TB
9 London Fletcher, BUF
10 Nick Barnett, GB
11 Takeo Spikes, BUF
12 Antonio Pierce, NYG
13 Keith Brooking, ATL
14 James Farrior, PIT
15 Jeremiah Trotter, PHI
16 Dan Morgan, CAR
17 Edgerton Hartwell, ATL
18 Jamie Sharper, SEA
19 Andra Davis, CLE
20 Will Witherspoon, CAR
21 Lavar Arrington, WAS
22 Sam Cowart, MIN
23 Danny Clark, OAK
24 Eric Barton, NYJ
25 Lance Briggs, CHI
26 Brian Simmons, CIN
27 Derek Smith, SF
28 Al Wilson, DEN
29 Odell Thurman, CIN
30 Julian Peterson, SF
31 Dat Nguyen, DAL
32 Kailee Wong, HOU
33 Chris Claiborne, STL
34 Morlon Greenwood, HOU
35 Derrick Johnson, KC
36 Marcus Washington, WAS
37 D.J. Williams, DEN
38 Kendrell Bell, KC
39 Courtney Watson, NO
40 Ian Gold, DEN
41 Cato June, IND
42 Teddy Lehman, Det
43 Pisa Tinoisamoa, STL
44 Daryl Smith, JAX
45 Steve Foley, SD
46 David Thornton, IND
47 Demarcus Ware, DAL
48 Shelton Quarles, TB
49 Monty Beisel, NE
50 Boss Bailey, DET
51 Karlos Dansby, ARI
52 Jeff Ulbrich, SF
53 Lemar Marshall, WAS
54 Lofa Tatupu, SEA
55 James Darling, ARI
56 Akinola Ayodele, JAX
57 Chad Brown, NE
58 David Pollack, CIN
59 Gary Brackett, IND
60 Brad Kassell, TEN
61 Tommy Polley, BAL
62 Mike Vrabel, NE
63 Napoleon Harris, MIN
64 Peter Sirmon, TEN
65 Adalius Thomas, BAL
66 Nail Diggs, GB
67 Dontarrious Thomas, MIN
68 Jamie Winborn, SF
69 Colby Bockwoldt, NO
70 Earl Holmes, DET
Defensive Linemen
1 Julius Peppers, CAR
2 Charles Grant, NO
3 Kevin Williams, MIN
4 Patrick Kerney, ATL
5 Michael Strahan, NYG
6 Jason Taylor, MIA
7 Bert Berry, ARI
8 Terrell Suggs, BAL
9 Dwight Freeney, IND
10 John Abraham, NYJ
11 Aaron Schobel, BUF
12 Simeon Rice, TB
13 Adewale Ogunleye, CHI
14 Shaun Ellis, NYJ
15 Darren Howard, NO
16 Leonard Little, STL
17 Osi Umenyiora, NYG
18 Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, GB
19 John Henderson, JAX
20 Justin Smith, CIN
21 James Hall, DET
22 Rod Coleman, ATL
23 Reggie Hayward, JAX
24 Jevon Kearse, PHI
25 Mike Rucker, CAR
26 Grant Wistrom, SEA
27 Cornelius Griffin, WAS
28 Chike Okeafor, ARI
29 Greg Spires, TB
30 Alex Brown, CHI
31 Shaun Rogers, DET
32 Will Smith, NO
33 Kenechi Udeze, MIN
34 Aaron Kampman, GB
35 Marcus Stroud, JAX
36 Aaron Smith, PIT
37 Richard Seymour, NE
38 Greg Ellis, DAL
39 Marques Douglas, SF
40 Robert Mathis, IND
41 Anthony Hargrove, STL
42 Bryce Fisher, SEA
43 Jared Allen, KC
44 Kris Jenkins, CAR
45 Derrick Burgess, OAK
46 Trevor Pryce, DEN
47 Robert Geathers, CIN
48 Darnell Dockett, ARI
49 Anthony Weaver, BAL
50 Ty Warren, NE
51 Antwan Odom, TEN
52 Pat Williams, MIN
53 Raheem Brock, IND
54 Jason Ferguson, DAL
55 Kelly Gregg, BAL
56 Tyler Brayton, OAK
57 Phillip Daniels, WAS
58 Erasmus James, MIN
59 Chris Kelsay, BUF
60 Ndukwe Kalu, PHI
61 Marcus Spears, DAL
62 Dewayne White, TB
63 Lance Johnstone, MIN
64 Courtney Brown, DEN
65 Kevin Carter, MIA
66 Dewayne Robertson, NYJ
67 Matt Roth, MIA
68 Vince Wilfork, NE
69 Tommie Harris, CHI
70 Travis LaBoy, TEN
Fantasy Football 
Most don't. But there's always room for "ifs".
True. Unless your name is Keith Bulluck.
Thats just horrible.
Thats just horrible.
Well, Guy-that-has-Sean-Taylor-as-his-signature-photo
Because I have Willams projected to have four FF and two FR, compared to one each for Taylor. And I have everybody (but one, ahem, TERRENCE MCGEE
Otherwise, I have them the same for sacks, ints and PDs.
If you can put Roy Williams #4 with a straight face, then it should have been pretty easy to put Sean Taylor in the top 10.
Taylor is more Ed Reed than Roy Williams. He wont have monster tackle numbers but WILL put up nice turnover numbers. I fully expect the INTs, FF, and FR to go up this year...just like they have every year with Reed.
Reed's rookie year - 85 total tackles - 1 sack - 5 ints - 12 PD - 0 FF
Taylors rookie year - 78 total tackles - 1 sack - 4 ints - 15 PD - 2 FF
In fact, Reed hasnt had more than 85 tackles any given year.
Reeds 2nd year ---- 71 tackles - 1 sack - 7 INT - 15 PD - 1 FF
Taylor 2nd year -----???????
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Sean Taylor ranked #23..........
Ohh-kay.
I just flipped through 16 IDP rankings.
Out of them, one had Taylor in the top 10 (8).
Four had Taylor ranked between 11-19 (an average of 15.5).
ELEVEN had Taylor ranked 20 or higher (an average of 30.6).
So, I guess I have him ranked a little higher than the average bear did.
Where was Roy Williams ranked in these same rankings?
I hate to say it, but Byron is right on this one, Sean Taylor should be in the top 10. The boy is just an ANIMAL! Maybe after he puts up better numbers this season will he crack the top 10 on Jeff's list. But as of right now, he's on my top 10 DB's list!
Never said he wasn't talented -- he is. He'll get there.
Let's see -- All but one had him in the top 10 (13th).
Eight had him in the top five (average of 3.2).
Seven had him between 6-10 (average of 7.6).
No offense Jeff (BTW good job), but how exactly do you project FF? To me FF, fumble recoveries, safeties and TD's are not factored in to IDP rankings, those stats rely too much on luck, I.e. right place at the right time. That's just me, but.....................
Umm, yeah, that would help.
No offense Jeff (BTW good job), but how exactly do you project FF? To me FF, fumble recoveries, safeties and TD's are not factored in to IDP rankings, those stats rely too much on luck, I.e. right place at the right time. That's just me, but.....................
Oh, I agree, mostly with FR. But with FF, I think it is a measure of aggression, and since I like tackles, I like the combo.
FF or FR won't put anybody head and shoulders over anybody else by themselves, but, at least with FF, that's a player who creates his opportunities and I may give him the nod on occasion. But, generally, it's low on my priorities (after tackles, sacks and interceptions).